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     Post subject: The Simple Truth about Melodyne
    PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:23 pm 
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    Melodyne studio
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    I am a new owner of Melodyne studio, having bought it less than two weeks ago. I was originally intending to buy Autotune, but after having explained to the sales rep what I was looking for in terms of the studio environment, he recommended that I buy Melodyne instead. After a few days of research, I was thoroughly impressed with Melodyne. And I still am. It is a great piece of software and does everything it's advertised to do and does it excellently at that.
    However, it does not work in a 64 bit environment. This is not Celemony's fault. If you scout around the website, it's pretty clear what Melodyne can and can't do. They're not being deceptive, they're being completely honest.
    The sales rep may or may not have known that Melodyne didn't work in a 64 bit environment, but then, I didn't ask him if it did or didn't. There is an old saying called, Caveat Emptor. Let the buyer beware. It is incumbent upon anyone to investigate anything thoroughly before making a decision. True, the sales rep could have asked me if I was using 32 bit or 64 bit, but that's only applicable if I'm looking for a scapegoat. Celemony creates great software and the salesperson sells great software. Both do a good job.

    What I'm saying here is that I'm not posting this to be critical or angry, but to state from experience that if you're using a 64 bit OS and a 64 bit DAW, you're going to have problems with Melodyne. I know this because I have a 64 bit OS and a 64 bit DAW and I also have Melodyne Studio.

    I will continue to use Melodyne and am very pleased with it. There is the extra step of having to use a 32 bit version of my DAW and then import the results into a 64 bit version of the same DAW, which is one extra step, and while I bemoan the inconvenience the truth is that I believe that Melodyne beats Autotune hands down and there simply isn't anything better than Melodyne out there that can do what Melodyne can do.

    So I'm not going to whine about this, but instead be thankful that there are workarounds that permit me to use this truly wonderful piece of software, and continue to use it and learn to use it(being a recent purchase, as mentioned), but on the other hand I thoroughly understand those who may not have yet bought the program who are similarly impressed with Melodyne and yet may not want to go through the inconvenience of having to invent workarounds in order to use it.

    Melodyne does not function the same in a 64 bit environment as it does in a 32 bit environment. If you have a 64 bit OS and a 64 bit DAW, you will have some problems. However, the problems can be overcome if you don't mind doing a little acrobatics. Even if I'd known about this before purchasing Melodyne, I can say that there is nothing out there that can do what Melodyne can do. Autotune can't do what Melodyne can do, and the crappy TPain and Cher effect aside(which you can replicate with Cakewalks V Vocal, for cryin out loud), Melodyne doesn't have any credible competitors. They're at the top of the heap.

    I for one would love to have a 64 bit version of Melodyne that works flawlessly and seamlessly with what's out there, but there simply isn't a substitute for Melodyne. So, as I've stated, this is not a rant nor a complaint, just a simple statement of fact from someone who has purchased and uses the software. I hope that Celemony develops something in the way of a 64 bit plug in that will enable Melodyne to integrate seamlessly with a 64 bit system, but until then I'll work with what I have, and be grateful that I have it.

    So there it is, the simple truth, unembellished and stated without prejudice, from someone who is not affiliated with the company but can both sympathize with them as well as suggest further development for something which has every potential for becoming indispensible to me. It's a great product, needs improvement, but a great product nonetheless.


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     Post subject: Re: The Simple Truth about Melodyne
    PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 2:22 am 
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    Hello skywalker1960,

    thanks for sharing your impressions. It's true, Melodyne studio is currently not based on 64-bit technology yet. However, it runs fine as a stand-alone 32-bit application on 64-bit systems.

    In combination with a 64-bit host, you have a few options:
    1. This is probably the most convenient one. As a Melodyne studio owner you may download a free copy of Melodyne editor. Melodyne editor is fully compatible with 64-bit systems. It runs as a plug-in in your DAW. See also here. It also comes with the groundbreaking DNA technology and is currently the most advanced and modern Melodyne edition we have.
    2. If you need the multi-track features of Melodyne studio, try exporting a backing track and a vocal track (or whatever you wish to edit) from your DAW and import them into Melodyne studio Stand-alone.
    3. Some fellow users reported that they have successfully used a tool like JBridge to run 32-bit plug-ins in their 64-bit DAWs. You might want to look into this.

    Having said that, we are aware that there is a demand for a 64-bit version of Melodyne studio, and we will definitely update the program in this regard. This should happen next year, although I can't give an exact release date yet.

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     Post subject: Re: The Simple Truth about Melodyne
    PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 12:04 am 
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    Melodyne studio
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    Hello Claudio,
    I have a question about your reply in which you write: In combination with a 64-bit host, you have a few options:
    1. This is probably the most convenient one. As a Melodyne studio owner you may download a free copy of Melodyne editor. Melodyne editor is fully compatible with 64-bit systems. It runs as a plug-in in your DAW.


    I did read this after you originally posted it but having read it again I want to clarify something. I love Melodyne and use it frequently but my problem still isn't solved. Now my question. I was under the assumption that Melodyne editor was installed with my installation of Melodyne Studio. I don't understand why I would have to "download" a copy of Melodyne editor. Is this something that did not come included with the Studio Bundle? And if so, where exactly on the website is it located, and what kind of hoops would I have to jump through to activate it on my studio PC? Would the download and installation of Melodyne editor count as my "second activation?(I currently use Melodyne on only one PC and have an activation remaining online).


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     Post subject: Re: The Simple Truth about Melodyne
    PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:15 pm 
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    Hello,

    no, Melodyne editor is not automatically installed with Melodyne studio. It is a separate product and has its own installer. You will find it in your myCelemony account. Moreover, the activation count is independent from Melodyne studio's. So it won't take up your second studio activation.

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     Post subject: Re: The Simple Truth about Melodyne
    PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:20 am 
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    Melodyne studio
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    I want to do some follow up on this thread because it looks like alot of people have read it or will read it and I would not want anyone to be misled because Melodyne is a really great program.

    First off, for the record, my configuration is a Win 7 64 bit PC, quad core, 6GB ram and Sonar 8.5 Producer edition(both 64 bit version and 32 bit version installed.)

    When I purchased Melodyne Studio 3 and initially installed it, and after having spent more than enough time with the manuals and other assorted sources of information, I began to dig into the program. My first attempt was to use Melodyne as a plug in in Sonar. I have been using computers for 16 years, so I know what I'm doing. After I stuck the install disk in the tray, installed the program, activated it, the only thing I had running on my PC was Studio 3. It was not immediately obvious to me that I did not have Melodyne Editor installed(I did not). Needless to say, anyone who may have attempted to use Studio 3 as a plug-in in Sonar will have pulled all of their hair out by now. There is a bug, and I don't know the cure for this. In the 64 bit version of Sonar, the track assign drop down menu is hidden behind the main GUI window in Studio 3. I can't believe I'm the only one who has this problem. It was like this from the beginning. It still does this. In the 32 bit version of Sonar it works just fine.

    To the point. I did NOT have Melodyne editor installed or activated. If this thread is going to serve any purpose for any person who has purchased or will purchase Studio 3, I want to leave this behind as a warning. There are TWO separate things installed. Studio 3 and Melodyne Editor. You may call me stupid if you like but I really can't blame myself. You stick the disk in the drive and the install begins. How was I supposed to know that something didn't get installed? The clue here is the activations. You have two activations for Studio, two activations for Editor. That in itself should tell you that it is two separate individual programs.

    Melodyne is a great program. I have no complaints. If you're poking around and thinking of getting it, do yourself a favor and forget about Autotune. Autotune can't do anything near what Melodyne can do. The TPain/Cher effect is crap in my opinion and is getting so overused that sooner or later it will go the way of disco and bell bottoms, and then you'll just have a neat pitch correction program that can't do much more than that. The creative possibilities of Melodyne are simply staggering.

    There is a problem(minor bug) with Sonar 8.5 64 bit and Melodyne Studio 3 GUI in my experience, but it isn't insurmountable. Frankly, I'm surprised that no one else has ever had this difficulty, because I can't find anything else about it on the web, though I've searched. This is the last I have to say on this topic unless it's to answer any questions that somebody might have about this thread. My first thought was to ask the moderators to remove the thread, but it will probably serve its purpose should anyone have any issues similar to mine in the future.


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