I have a vocal section which is not sync'ing up within Melodyne for a song which contains a varying tempo change. I've been at this for about 3 hours now with no luck. Never had this problem with Auto Tune...but Auto Tune doesn't sound as good, so here I am.

I have Pro Tools LE 10 on an iMac Core 2 Duo 3.06 running OSX 10.6.8 using Melodyne Editor Version 2.

I have a section of a song which has some stepped down tempo changes, and then steps back up again a few bars later. I recorded the vocal track to that tempo change so everything matches up well before I transfer the audio to Melodyne. However, once transferred, the slowed-down section of the vocal comes in way late and is clearly stretched to a slower tempo.. The result is unusable audio. The song starts at 120 bpm and then steps to 115, 110, 105 (1 measure for each tempo) and then 100 bpm for several measures, but then steps back up in reverse order back to 120.

I watched the instructional video on tempo, but those weren't entirely helpful. I've researched this problem on the forums and saw many people with the same issue, but somehow I am unable to resolve mine so far. Here's what I've tried:

1) I've opened the plug in window and before transferring audio, selected the tempo change box with variable and NOT selecting time stretch. Then I transferred the audio. Didn't work.
2) I've opened the plug-in window and transferred the audio. After the transfer, I opened the tempo dialog box in Melodyne, selected the variable tempo box, NOT the time stretch...didn't work.
3) I transferred the audio to Melodyne, selected the variable tempo option, played back the entire song start to finish. Didn't work.
4) I transferred the audio to Melodyne, selected the variable tempo options, played back only the section from just before the tempo change to just after it reverts back to 120 bpm again...didn't work.

Can someone please tell me, step by step, how to accomplish this?

I too am running into these problems with Melodyne Editor 2.0 This is so frustrating as I am still trying hard to make a complete adjustment from the old Melodyne Plug-in to Melodyne Editor. But guess what? I can get Melodyne Plug-in to sync up okay with projects with tempo changes and Melodyne Editor is HORRID with syncing up in projects that have several tempo changes. I have made a video to show some of these problems:
http://media.shinywhitebox.com/dave-zimmerman/pro-tools4


Thanks.

Okay, so now I can completely confirm that there are some major problems with sessions that change tempo a lot. I ended up pitch correcting with the old Melodyne Plug-in on some sessions because no matter what I did, the new Melodyne 2 plug-in would not sync up.

So I later opened up that same session that originally had the old Melodyne Plug-in and synced perfectly with the Melodyne 2 plug-in instead. I let the conversion to the new plug-in take place and it isn't locked at all. A complete mess.

Celemony, are you aware of this Bug????

Agree, definitely some funkiness with the syncing. I'm guessing you're having the same problem, i.e. it syncs when you start at the beginning of the pitch corrected bit...but when you go back to the beginning of the whole project, it gets out of sync by the time it reaches that spot (assuming you're not fixing the whole thing).

I have the same problem, although I did workaround it by bouncing in place from the beginning of each fixed bit and then bypassing the plug-in (so that you're not hearing both the sync'd and out of sync versions at the same time).

It's a pain in the ass, but it seems to at least allow me to keep moving.

Hope they address this asap.

This is definitely a big problem with Melodyne Editor. I'm running editor 2.1.0 32 bit, and I've had constant problems with the syncing between Cubase and Melodyne whenever there is tempo changes in Cubase. Melodyne loses the sync connection and plays back completely out of time.

Best workaround is to bounce the track in DAW to a single file, close DAW, open file in Melodyne standalone and edit, then save as new file. Import back into DAW. It's a pain in the ass, but it works.

Hello philtweed,

Are you on a Mac or a PC? Which Cubase version is this? Are you aware of our manual chapter about how to handle tempo changes? Is this what you have tried?

This has been a problem for loooooong time - and I have been thru all the advices several time. It does not work properly.....

Hello GS-DK,

I’m sorry to hear that it is not working properly for you, but this is not a general issue. Perhaps it is something with your personal system setup, your settings or your workflow? If you don’t find the advices in our manual helpful, please send an e-mail with a detailed description of your issue to our support team. Thanks.

I am using Cubase 6 with Melodyne 2.0 on a non stop bass track. Using track tempo I have two parts at 153bpm (for a breakdown) and two parts 189bpm. At second tempo change it's wicked outta sync, and will not bounce properly with Melodyne on it either.

My first thought was there's a tempo variation in Melodyne... and voila!

...but the OK button is greyed out, so I can't choose that over constant tempo.

What's going on here?

Hello dinowax,

First of all, make sure you always have the latest Melodyne update installed. Melodyne editor is currently at version 2.1. Also, which Cubase version is this exactly? And are you on a Mac or a PC?

Are you aware that you need to teach Melodyne about tempo changes? See this video for details. Is this what you have been trying?

Not a general issue? Everyone seems to have this problem, there are forum posts EVERYWHERE on this exact problem, but there are no solutions on the internet. None that seem to work at least. I have updated to the latest version, I followed every method for telling Melodyne about tempo changes. I saw a Sweetwater fix that said I need to create a Midi Track and bounce a Midi file to disc but when i went to import tht file under "Edit" menu in Melodyne the option Sweetwater claimed was there did not exist. A tech from Sweetwater had me turn off Delay Compensation in Pro Tools and it seemed to work until I got about half way through the song then when I went back to the beginning, it was all out of wack all of a sudden. I could move to any point in the song and it played in synch then when i bounced to disc, by the end my vocal was about 3 seconds out of synch. This would be great software if this issue was fixed. But as it stands it's worthless.

The only way that I can get Melodyne Editor to work in Pro Tools 10.3.2 in a project with lots of time changes is to import the audio all the way from the first second of the project up through the end of the project. In that case, it generally stays in sync. But this is a pain for instances when you just want to tweak one little phrase towards the end of the project or tweak the extra backup vocals at the end of the last chorus.

I never had this problem with Melodyne Plug-in. Sure, it may not have always showed the correct bars and beats and everything, but it NEVER would play back the material out of sync. I would much much much rather have the visuals of the measures wrong then the audio playback a mess. Why can't you do something like Waves Tune does or Auto Tune?

The fact is that whether or not you can get it to sync right following very long and tedious processes, the workflow is not ideal. You will hear me say this over and over and over again. The biggest weakness of Melodyne is the painfully slow workflow. I have owned and used Melodyne products since 1999 and Melodyne is currently the slowest it has ever been with its workflow. Obviously the people who are making the "feature" decisions are not working on tight deadlines with clients breathing on their neck.

Hello guys.


Part of the problem here is that people seem to be mixing up the different Melodyne editions. The “Sweetwater fix” is for Melodyne studio, for example, while you probably have Melodyne editor, as your profile says. There are so many different scenarios out there that might lead to issues with tempo changes. This is why we always recommend that you write an e-mail to our support team with a detailed description of your personal setup, OS, DAW, perhaps some audio examples or project files. This way your issue can be resolved much better and more individual than on the forum.

after many hours spent to try... i've read these posts about... that's incredibile!

i subscribe others forumers about the out of sync on plugin on cubase 6.0.7 (and now 7.0.1) 64bit, on windows 7.
Melodyne editor 2.1 last update.... (i often check updates)

if you follow the instructions of the video tutorial, maybe it works in a complete track starting from 1.0.0, without parts. maybe????

in case of tempo variation:

if you jump in any part of your song, forward and rewind, and start with your transport bar, Melodyne lost sync.

and when and if tempo is ok, sounds good and you think "now i export before to lose my work" and bounce the track.... the bounce is not correct. we lost many seconds,or cut some parts.

one time it was enough to start again and bounce was ok.

i solved the problem recording from the group track (thank to cubase, is possible to record the out of group/bus on a audio track on cubase)
and too i solved to export the track as xml+audio (export archive) and the tempo track separately, than recharge all in a new project, re-doing the tempo procedure in Melodyne(learing tempo variation), and finally in sync, i bounced the track and reimported on my original project....

but next time?

that's a big bug, sorry to tell you....

i learned about many daws, system and experience in this thread... are you sure all going well on Melodyne?

i also tried with a rewire, but it's the same.

what i have to do? i like Melodyne, i spent many euros and time. wanna support us with any stable versions?

thanks to support me, if you can do.

Regards.
Frankvenice, Francesco from Venice Italy, ( i hope in italians forum, my english is not very good, sorry)

Hello Francesco,

Does this also happen with a real-time bounce in Cubase?