is this the same "timing issue" that has been posted...plz help if anyone can. thanx.

Hello ibonilla,

welcome to our forum. Which Melodyne edition and exact version number is this? Are you on a Mac or a PC? Which OS? Do you use Melodyne as a stand-alone program or in connection with a host (if the latter, which host is it, and how exactly do you integrate Melodyne)?

Also, a more detailed description of your timing issue would certainly help.

One thing I'd noticed (before the later releases of plug in and editor) was that if you mess around with any of the console or computer things while transferring the track it created timing problems.
I learned to just not touch anything during transfer.

In Sonar unless you start and stop playback with the start stop button the track will be out of sync.

(that is caused by starting or stopping by clicking the mouse on the timeline)

As Claudio showed me bouncing the corrected track clears up a lot of CPU drag AND makes a more stable track.

WSS

I seem to be having a similar problem, although the aforementioned fixes don't seem to help.

I'm using Melodyne Editor 1.1.2 as a plugin in Logic 9 (32-bit). I'm having a problem which is that Melodyne plays back with incorrect timing. Sometimes it's early, and sometimes it's late. Sometimes, it seems to get worse the longer the track has been in play. For example, just now I was editing a guitar solo toward the end of a song, and it worked fine when I was editing it, starting the cursor very near the beginning of the phrases I was working on. However, if I listen to the whole song, when it gets to the solo, it comes in several measures early, though not on the beat, and appears to be time-compressed; the track comes in early and plays back faster than it should.

I've tried doing "clean transfers", i.e. removing all plugins except for Melodyne, and not touching anything while transferring, but it doesn't seem to help.

I've also tried bouncing down the edited tracks, but the bounced waveforms reflect the timing issues. At first I thought I could align the bounced tracks with the originals, but they quickly get out of sync.

Any insight would be much appreciated!

Thanks,
Michael

Hello Michael,

what is the exact Logic version you are running? And have you already set your buffer size to 1024 samples?

I'm experiencing the same problem. Logic 9, OS 10.5.8 and the latest version of Melodyne as an AU plugin (downloaded update yesterday and authorised it fine).

I used Melodyne to make a BV a diatonic third above by duplicating the original vocal's audio. It played back fine (when the relevant excerpts were checked) right up until the bouncing stage - when I played the whole track through (in real-time or off-line bounce mode). The BV was (approximately?) one bar late.

I've had beat sync issues with Melodyne before (the plugin's beat counter has never quite lined up with Logic's whenever I used time sig changes in the host program) but never experienced out of sync audio.

joebennett,

welcome to the forum. Same question to you: What is your buffer size? And does it help to increase it to 1024 samples before you bounce the track?

The "beat counter" issue is probably related to your Logic version. Is it older than 9.0.2? We have described the issue on this page.

Hurray! Yes, 1024 buffer fixed it - many thanks Claudio for the clear and prompt response.

I wonder if there's any way to do this by default i.e. whenever Melodyne plays back it engages 1024 size, then reverts to user settings when recording (for lower latency). Feature request, perhaps?

Update; back to the same problem. An increased buffer size does improve things, but as soon as I started adding more plugins to other tracks the sync/delay problem began again, with Melodyne's playback around 2 seconds later than the rest of the track.

Joe

Hello Joe,

is Melodyne in the very first insert slot? Are there any plug-ins following in the chain? If so, does it help to disable them? How many tracks and plug-ins are there involved in your project?

If you want, you can upload the Logic file here (without any audio) as a zip file, or send us an e-mail to support AT celemony DOT com with the file and more details. Thank you.

Hi Claudio

I'm afraid I am also suffering this timing (slightly ahead) problem using Editor VST3 v1.1.2 in Cubase v5.1.1 - using Windows XP/SP3 32-bit. It's easily repeatable.

The problem occurs when listening to the track play in real-time in Cubase, and also occurs in exports. When the problem occurs in real-time, if I stop and start playback again with the space-bar, the timing usually goes OK again.

The problem occurs whether exporting single tracks, groups or the stereo mix.

Buffers are at 1024 currently, but the situation was just as bad at 2048.

The problem happens with Melodyne in Insert slot 1 or 2, and with or without other insert effects in the chain.

Bouncing the tracks makes no difference - they remain ahead.

If I remove Melodyne from the Insert, the timing is all OK again.

My CPU is constantly below 50% and RAM at around 45%. The Cubase ASIO performance meter is showing between 10% and ~60%, but no peak lights showing, while playing.

PC Hardware is Dell XPS M1730 lap-top / 2.4Ghz / 4Gb / 2*250Gb

Audio interface is Focusrite Liquid Saffire 56 FireWire / Mix Control v2.0

BOOT.INI shows multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /3GB /NOEXECUTE=OPTIN /FASTDETECT

Should I send a copy of the arrangement (with or without audio) - or do you have enough evidence from joebennett?

Hello pbryant,

yes, please send us your arrangement with some audio. Your case might still be different than Joe's. Thank you.

Wow Claudio - lightning quick response!

I'm just preparing the arrangement for you, but I thought you should know that I rebooted this same hardware set-up under Windows 7 / 64-bit and ran the same arrangement under Cubase 5/64....and it appears to be OK - both in real-time, and when exporting.

Unfortunately, I'm unable to shift my operations completely to the Windows7/Cubase/64-bit world yet, owing to other 32-bit VST/bridge-related issues, but thought you would want to know this, as it may be relevant.

...and I also wanted to let you know that when I loaded-up the 64-bit environment with the affected arrangement, I also got an Internet Explorer window automatically loaded, saying 'come and get Melodyne Editor v1.1.5.095'. I like that, a lot

back v.soon......

Hi,

I'm having the same track timing problems with Melodyne essential RTAS 1.x inserted. I'm running Pro Tools LE 8.0.3, Windows 7 Home Premium, Intel Core 2 Quad Processor Q8300 motherboard with 8Gb of ram.

The session was created by importing a midi file with several subtle tempo changes, then punching in a few short audio tracks.
After using the Melodyne plugin on parts of a track, the timing problem showed up. If you start playback just before the Melodyne edit, the track plays in sync, but if you start playback around 30 seconds before the edit, the track plays out of sync.

As an Avid/Digidesign/Euphonix customer support engineer, I'm afraid I can't recommend this product at this time.

hello hbridge,

please watch the little broken chain symbol next to the tempo field glowing orange.
Click on it and in the dialog click "Variable Tempo" and check "stretch audio".

Now, with the dialog open, play back the whole song with all tempo change. After doing so, close the dialog. Your audio should be in sync now.

Best
Nils